date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:57:51 -0000
from: "Richard Starkey" <???@umist.ac.uk>
subject: RE: Will Hutton's A-level essay
to: "'Mike Hulme'" <???@uea.ac.uk>
Hi Mike
Thanks a lot for the info - extremely interesting.
I know that SBC is editor of EE and I know she is a CC sceptic. Is his the "hidden agenda"
of EE too? Do you think WH was briefed by SBC? If I get round to replying to WH, would it
be legitimate to mention the contentious (non-neutral?!?!) nature of MMO3 or would this do
more harm than good?
Any draft reply, I would of course be happy to run by you and Asher.
Richard
PS Copying to Kevin for his interest. (He might also help me draft a reply!)
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Hulme [mail
to:???@uea.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 December 2003 14:10
To: Richard Starkey
Cc: ???@umist.ac.uk; ???@uea.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Will Hutton's A-level essay
Richard,
The McIntyre and McKitrick paper (MM03) has got a hidden agenda behind it. Check out this
web site for some commentary on it. As with the contentious Soon and Baliunas paper, MM03
has been published by Energy & Environment and is part of Sonja Christriansen-Boehmer's
on-going campaign.
[1]http://holocene.evsc.virginia.edu/Mann/EEReply.html
So while not endorsing this attempt at undermining our basis for current exceptional global
warming, I must say I find myself in sympathy with much of what Will Hutton writes. In
particular his conclusion that the debate around climate change is fundamentally about
power and politics rather than the environment seems undeniable. There are not that many
"facts" about (the meaning of) climate change which science can unequivocally reveal.
I am copying this to Asher Minns, since Asher has been giving the issue of "sound science"
and Tyndall's reaction to it some thought recently.
Mike
At 11:37 08/12/2003 +000 ???, you wrote:
Dear Mike
Did you see Will Hutton s article in the Observer yesterday. See
[2]http://observer.guardian.co.uk/columnists/story/0,12877,1101658,00.html
An appalling article in my view. One of the key paras is
An important and neutral paper by Canadians Steven McIntyre and Ross McKitrick suggests
that the best guess is that, while temperatures are currently rising, they probably lie
within the range for the past 600 years. Environmentalists, just as in a battle over a new
runway, are being as partisan in their use of science as their opponents.
Do you know of these (neutral!!!!!!!!!) guys and their paper. Do they have credibility?
Is Hutton s interpretation correct?
I d like to do a reply but could do with some insight into the science.
Richard
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